Sunday 29 December 2013

Army Painter Undercoat & Some Spanish Militia

So, having resolved to empty my painting desk of half finished units (see my last post) I've made a start. This is likely to result in figures being finished in a somewhat random order - as I have a lot of random half-finished units where I ran out of steam / was enticed by some new figures before I could finish older ones.

Back in March 2011, I had the urge to splurge on eBay and was lucky enough to pick up a couple of bits and pieces including some 15mm AB French horse artillery crews. At about the same time, I came across the Army Painter dark blue undercoat. Essentially, the AP argument goes that one can paint one's army quicker by spraying your figures in the main uniform colour undercoat, blocking in the other colours and then dipping the figures. My eyes glazed over as I looked at the pile of French Legere in the big box and suddenly this seemed like a wonderful idea. So at Salute 2011, I bought a can.

On the basis that I wanted to test out the theory before plunging into battalions of Legere I thought I'd do a French Horse Artillery battery first. My first thought was that the AP Dark Blue went on a little heavily (my normal undercoat is the Evil Empire's Skull White spray (it's expensive but I've never had a problem with it). The picture below shows the figures right after they've been sprayed.



Now I'm slightly underwhelmed by their argument for reasons I'll go into  - first, because the spray seemed rather thick I was loathe to to work the can like I do with the GW sprays - this meant that there were a couple of areas that didn't get great coverage and I had to go in with a paint brush (and this was prior to the Army Painter people bringing out pots of paint so I had to touch up with some mid-blue from Miniature Paints - which seemed close enough in tone to work). My next issue is probably because I'm used to working from a white undercoat - I found it quite hard to get good coverage for things like flesh over the dark blue base. My other problem was that I'm used to painting things like jackets up to the edge of the colour, and leaving things like crossbelts white - I just come back at the end and touch up where i've slopped over. Obviously, with this method I had to reverse my normal practice and maintian a steady hand whilst painting the white belts. To be honest, I'm not sure if it actually saved that much time painting these figures - possibly I need to try a battalion of Legere after all to see if it is any easier when one does a lot of figures.

Below is a picture of the gun crew after they were given a coat of AP Dark Tone (I went a bit too heavy on at least one figure and the AP pooled on the brim of his shako). Apologies for the poor picture quality. And before anyone says anything, I know they are manning an unpainted gun - it was all there was to hand (cannon are going to be the subject of my next post) and I didn't want them to be standing around an empty space. The flash has made them look a bit paler than they are in real life - they're actually a quite dark blue.


And the final pictures are of the other unit finished this week (apart from basing, and the flag being added) - a battalion of Spanish Provincial Militia (32 figures) wearing the M1805 uniform. As with my previous Spanish these were sprayed white, colours blocked in and then Army Painter Dark Tone was brushed on - they still need the flat varnish to be added. Figures are again by AB.





6 comments:

  1. There are various schools of thought on this one. I've never sprayed my figures with the main colour of their uniform. I prefer priming with GW Chaos black or vallejo black primer. Some folk don't like this because the black reduces the intensity of the colours. True but for poor painters like myself any 'missed' areas are covered by the black so doesn't appear too bad.

    You just have to go for the technique that suits your style.

    You have produced some pretty figures by the way! The AB's are the best figures I'm come across, the raised detail lends itself to some awesome paint jobs.

    Cheers

    Ken

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    1. Hi Ken,
      The Spanish lend themselves very easily to this style of painting - there isn't the fussy lining of the French Line Infantry (well a bit on their shoulder tabs but Mr Barton made it quite simple to do) or the multiple crossbelts of the British Infantry.

      As for priming with black - I find that I can't see the detail once the figure is primed, and, as you say, it reduces the intensity of the colours. As for black undercoats hiding the bits you've missed - well the AP does a bit of that, and lines out things like crossbelts. I've missed a couple of waterbottles on the battalion above.

      I've been very much enjoying your cavalry posts recently!

      Malc

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    2. AP washes/dips/varnishes or anything name it might use has never appealed to me for white uniforms. For me, your Spanish appear to be wearing almost grey uniforms instead of white. I've seen people do this with Austrians, but I found it appeared sloppy. I don't mean to ridicule your painting, so I don't mean any offense.

      You might take a look at my blog as I have several BH 15mm Spanish units that I did in 2011 or so with black primer and then painting everything else as normal. I guess it all goes back to taste, but I use black primer for everything and I don't find dull colors to be as a result. Here was the last unit I did: http://thepeninsularwar.blogspot.com/2012/05/new-spanish-unit-estremadura-regiment.html

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    3. Well, I'm happy to admit my Spaniards are nowhere in the same league as Paul Alba's Saxons - take a look at this post to see how white uniforms should be done with AP assistance: http://napoleonicsinminiature.blogspot.co.uk/2011/11/saxons-finished.html

      My major problem with black undercoat is I find it hard to see the details, and that the figure normally looks much worse as I paint before it gets better and I find that rather discouraging!

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  2. They all came out very well Malc,
    I gave up on the AP not cause I didn't find it useful but because I couldn't get enough time to paint before the tub went south. My buddy Robert has found it a great help for his Austrian 15mm naps.

    Cheers
    Paul

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    1. My tin has been open eight months now and so far is fine. I've been very careful to seal it up tightly after use (and Archie is banned from the room when it is open) and have been pretty gentle opening it. So far it has only covered about five battalions and I've barely put a dent in it - as you know, you don't need very much at all per figure if you brush it on. I also have a tin of the mid tone that I haven't opened yet.

      Malc

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